http://www.document.no/2012/03/forensic ... eivik-v-2/
Viidennessä osassa breivikin haastattelut 3-5.
Huomioita:
-breivik oli nuorempana jonkin verran poliittisesti aktiivinen
The subject uses numbers and values to a greater extent than is common in normal speech.
-itseänikin on naurattanut tuo piirre... se käy ilmi manifestistakin
The subject believes to know what people he is talking to think about, as he believes to know how former peers from the Progress Party would characterize him now. The phenomenon is considered to be psychotically based.
-minäkin luulen tietäväni mitä he ajattelevat. minullakin on siis psykoosin oireita?
During the interview, the subject expresses thoughts about the Progress Party being edited and the story of the invasion of Serbia distorted by the media. The phenomena are considered to be paranoid delusions.
-holokaustin kieltäjät hoitoon?
During the conversation, the subject says he participated in meetings in Liberia and London in 2002, having been asked to come to the meetings as a delegate from Norway. He appears to be covering up and secretive when asked to describe the meetings. The same is true when he is asked to explain how he communicated with the other meeting participants in advance. The phenomena are considered as possibly self-deluding or as auditory hallucinations.
-tässä jo syytetään selkeästi harhoista. psykiatrit tulkitsevat breivikin salailun merkiksi harhoista. onko tällaiset epätäydelliset harhat, joissa breivik sanoo osallistuneensa kokoukseen, mutta ei sitten osaa/halua kuvailla sitä tarkemmin tavallisia skitsofrenissa? miksi harhat ovat näin epätäydellisiä?
The basis of the operation is that I am a prisoner of conscience, I can not sit and watch as we are losing our country. My people and their civilization are destroyed and I can not be looking at that. We, and I, are driven by conscience and love, not hate.
He adds: In Scandinavia, England and Germany, women have too many sexual partners. All women become whores. I want to change Europe. Want to implement standards closer to Islam with regard to sexual morality.
-nyt menee kyllä breivikiltä kaikki tuki...
About his current role, the subject says: I am a leader through my compendium. It will be an ideological Wikipedia. It consists of a historical part, an ideological part and a military part. In addition, it has personal photos. The subject says that there is a picture of him, his mother, and his sister in the rear of the compendium. It is a shining symbol of success in the socioeconomic area, he adds.
The experts ask whether he has become a good leader now. I am a leader who is a beacon. With our French brothers, there is a language barrier, but I have worked with British nationalists, which is why the manifest is in English. Utøya island and the government building was all about publishing the manifest, to reach the 350,000 militant nationalists who are the audience. It will help the British to gain power in the UK.
The subject goes on to say: I am a leader in terms of being an ideologue. History will tell whether I will be recognized. The main objective is to distribute revolutionary literature. And everybody who has published a theory which is followed is a leader.
-täysin järkevää tuo yllä oleva
The subject explains that a civilian is someone who is not a political activist. He regards political activists as legitimate targets.
The experts ask who the subject is referring to when he uses the pronoun we. It is the 120 million supporters in Europe, he says. 15% of the population. Sometimes it is used on the Knights Templar, or I refer to the three in Norway.
-nyt vaivautuivat kysymään, mitä breivik tarkoittaa kun hän sanoo ME
-tutkijat yrittävät selvästikkin monessa kysymyksessä saada breivik myöntämään, että hän jotenkin telepaattisesti tai vastaavalla tavalla kommunikoi toisten kanssa... lopulta he kysyvät häneltä suoraan:
The experts ask the subject if he has ever used thought transfer or telepathy to communicate with his peers. The subject laughs. It does not exist, he says. We are using technology. We communicate with the technology that makes it possible to mask IP addresses. There is such technology in the United States. It can not be traced.
The subject gives detailed information about what he calls his own radicalization process. To explain why he chose the revolutionary path, he mentions among other things an experience of a fight in the schoolyard during junior high school, the fact that he heard about a number of friends and acquaintances who were harassed and raped by Muslims, XXXXXXXXXXXX and that he grew up with his mother and sister. The subject is by this considered to attribute great political significance to personal, private and trivial matters.
-tutkijat ehdottivat aikaisemmin raportissa, että breivik pyrkii jäljittelemään raamatun evankeliumia. yllä olevan kohdalla he kuitenkin jostain syystä kieltäytyvät huomaamasta, että breivik ainakin osittain jäljittelee hitlerin mein kampfia. onko tämä seikan huomioimatta jättäminen psykiatrien osalta tietoinen valinta, vai vain yleistiedon puutetta?
The subject presents the idea that if he and his organization do not intervene, everybody living in Oslo West is threatened by violence and murder. He believes that all Christians will be destroyed and must evacuate to Vestfold. He believes that civilization is about to go bust. The symptoms are considered to be paranoid delusions.
-yllä olevassa taas esitetään väitteitä... minua ärsyttää näissä se, että vaikka psykiatrit usein siteeraavat breivikiä sanasta sanaan, niin yllä olevassa he eivät tee niin... breivikin tarkat sanomiset jäävät siis tuntemattomiksi ja vaille kontekstia...
The idea of martyrdom was born when I moved back home to my mother, the subject says, but it was put on hold for a year because I wanted to give myself a martyrdom gift, and play World of Warcraft (WoW) for a year first.
- Yllä olevan luettuani repesin totaalisesti.
-breivik arvioi, että noin 30% manifestista on copy pastee