http://www.document.no/2012/03/forensic ... reivik-ix/
13. tapaaminen ja breivikin arviointia GAF ja mini plus testien avulla.
Huomioita:
I have helped to build the façade of a house by describing titles, symbols and rhetoric. I am the closest you get to a knight today. Perfect knights are Charles Martel and Sigurd the Crusader. There haven’t been many knights after him. The subject gets pensive and adds perhaps noone until now. He then says am basically a foot soldier. The expert reminds him of the many statements he has made ??about knighthood and titles and regent, and he replies engaged what I have tried to do is to use psychological warfare. I use provocative twists and absurdity to change and redefine the ideological spectrum.
-psykiatrien harmiksi breivik kutsuu itseään jalkasotilaaksi, eikä suinkaan vallitsijaksi.
Finally, the expert asks the subject about his future. He says if I have misjudged and noone wants to work with me, I have missed so badly that I will self-terminate after the trial. But the requirement for continuing to live is that I can fight on, and I will do this if only one individual will work with me. If I have been wrong and noone will work with me, I self-terminate, he repeats. It was a brutal operation, but ingenious.
The subject is unable to take the community perspective, i.e. how he will be considered by the outside world.
-breivik on useaan otteeseen esittänyt arvioitaan kuinka paljon hänellä on tukijoita. esim 15% tukee häntä. sehän tarkoittaa silloin, että 85% ei tue häntä. eikö hän tässä arvioi yhteisön näkökulmaa?
The subject uses words such as reproduction and reserves when describing his own position. He also points out that he is decisive in the war for Norway’s existence, and he is at war with chemical, biological and flame weapons. The terminology used is considered as expressions of underlying, grandiose delusions, partly also of a bizarre nature.
-muistaakseni tälläkin palstalla on ollut puhetta paranoidisista harhoista(jotka voivat olla mahdollisia) ja bizarreista harhoista(jotka eivät voi olla mahdollisia), nyt psykiatrit nähtävästi vetävät bizarri sanan tähän mukaan. tietenkin tuosta vaan, ilman mitään sen kummempia selityksiä mitkä breivikin harhoista ovat heidän mielestään bizarreja.
For a meaningful diagnosis of any personality disorder in ICD 10, it is required that the described differences not be directly attributable to a different psychiatric disorder. Since the subject at the time of the survey and prior to this has had severe psychotic symptoms, the experts have not found it correct or appropriate to score him after the SCID II.
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The subject’s functioning is assessed to fit the description Unable to function in almost all areas, as well as the additional comment With this conduct disorder, symptoms and functions go into each other.
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'unable to function', paitsi että pommin pystyy rakentamaan sekä suunnittelemaan terrori-iskua vuosikausia jäämättä kiinni.
The subject does not satisfy the required entry criteria for current or former phobias
-miksikähän infektiofobiaa ei ole mainittu? eikö se täytä ehtoja?
Regarding psychotic disorder, module M, Part I
The subject believes that his life is in danger.
-breivik pelkää muiden vankien uhkaavan hänen henkeään. rikos huomioiden järkevä pelko.
He believes that the Norwegian people is about to be raped
-breivik sanoo, että muslimit tekevät paljon raiskauksia jo nyt, eivät vain tulevaisuudessa.
and killed,
-breivik sanoo, että norjassa on käynnissä 'low-intensity civil war', eli hitaasti etenevä sisällissota ja että tulevaisuudessa ihmisiä tulee kuolemaan.
that there is ethnic cleansing in the country,
-jälleen kyseessä hitaasti etenevä sisällissota, jossa breivik katsoo muslimien pyrkivän syrjäyttämään valtaväestön.
and that he is commander in an ongoing civil war.
-komentaja, mutta hän sanoo silti olevansa vain yhden-miehen solun komentaja. ei esim ryhmän komentaja.
The symptoms are jugded as bizarre delusions.
-MILLÄ ihmeen perusteella?
The subject thinks he knows what others think and believe. The symptom is considered a perceptual delusion.
-ainut viittaus tähän on mielentilaraportin käännöksen 4. osassa. lainaus:
The subject says that the next questions are of a more personal nature. Question number five: Are you nationalists or internationalists? Number six: Do you support multiculturalism? Number seven: Have any of you had associations with Marxist organizations in your lifetime?
One expert asks how the subject would determine whether we were speaking the truth, if we had answered the questions. The subject smiles, and says: I already know. Thousands of hours of sales has enabled me to predict with 70% probability what the person I’m talking to thinks. So I know that none of you are Marxist-oriented, but both are politically correct, and support multiculturalism. I can not expect more.
The experts ask if the subject guesses or knows what others think. I know, says the subject, that is a big difference.
The subject says that he has read a lot of psychology. He explains: I am accredited 15-16000 hours of study, the equivalent of 9 years of studies. I can differentiate between east-enders and west-enders and assess that by looking at the clothes, make-up, watches and other small details to determine where in Oslo people come from.
-minusta yllä oleva kuulostaa pikemminkin breivikin brassailulta, että kuinka hän pystyy lukemaan ihmistä.
The subject says he has never had auditory hallucinations. The experts’ assessment is that it seems difficult to know for sure, as the subject says that all the information about his communication and communication is confidential.
-tämä tämä tämä tämä,
psykiatrit ovat onnistuneet pitämään tämän mukanaan koko mielentilaraportin ajan. breivik on moneen otteeseen antanut ymmärtää puhuvansa näiden temppeliritariensa kanssa internetin kautta. ei harhojen kautta.
... tässä lainauksia 5. osasta... hän ei voi näistä kertoa, koska se antaisi mahdollisesti viranomaisille tilaisuuden jäljittää heidät. (minun mielipide on, että breivik valehtelee tarkoituksella jonkin verran)
After he was out of party politics, he began to discuss politics on the Internet. I got to know people online, he says, and joined a network. He adds: I was very ambitious at the time and wanted a leading role. So on May 1st 2002, I was a Norwegian delegate in London at the inaugural meeting of Knights Templar.
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About his involvement in the organization Knights Templar, the subject says that he discovered it in April 2002. He says: The term or name was not used then. I can not tell you much about it. When asked about what he can tell, the subject says: I got to know individuals through the Internet. This was two or three weeks before the London meeting.
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About his involvement in the organization Knights Templar, the subject says that he discovered it in April 2002. He says: The term or name was not used then. I can not tell you much about it. When asked about what he can tell, the subject says: I got to know individuals through the Internet. This was two or three weeks before the London meeting.
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The subject maintains that he in all the years since 2002 have had extensive communication with others over the Internet.
-kuinka selvästi breivikin pitää tämä asia selittää?
The subject suspects having been under surveillance, possibly filmed in his home, and has searched for microphones and cameras.
-järkevä otaksuma ja pelko jokaiselle terroristille, joka haluaa onnistua iskussaan.
He has been afraid of infection
-breivik on myöntänyt, ettei hän pidä taudeista. myönnän sen, mutta ottakaa huomioon myös seuraavat seikat.
-breivik käytti pommia rakentaessaan suojanaamaria ja suojapukua. tautipelko on ollut hyvä peitetarina ja selitys hankkia naamari ja puku. täällä kuva:
-breivik oli sairaana juuri ennen kuin hänen operaationsa valmistelu oli tarkoitus alkaa. on ymmärrettävää, että tarkkana jamppana hän tuossa tilanteessa halusi välttää tauteja.
and radiation.
-säteilystä puhutaan mielentilaraportin 7. osassa yhden kappaleen verran:
The experts ask if the subject has felt exposed to radiation. He replies: Yes, there has been radiation anxiety, but I have not exposed myself to any radiation sources.
-miksi psykiatrit perustavat näin lyhyeen mainintaan yhtään mitää? kappaleen perusteella ei voi edes ymmärtää mihin tuolla viitataan. psykiatrit ovat ilmeisesti unohtaneet, että fukushiman ydinonnettomuudesta oli tuolloin kulunut vain 3-4 kuukautta.
He believes he has received messages in code.
-puhuu tästä 5. ja 7. osissa:
He says he has received something in code, but it has been less than 1% of the time I had to decode material on the net. The subject smiles and adds: The police are so interested in it. You can believe what you want. It was not up to me to interpret it, not to invent it. The subject goes on to say: Important things within the Knights Templar are coded, but we use a very primitive method. Mostly we used safer technology, such as encryption on servers.
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The subject appeared without objective evidence of auditory hallucinations. He denied hearing voices or having experienced telepathy. The subject denies receiving messages through the Internet directly aimed at him, but confirmed to have had extensive communication with others through technology that can not be traced. He confirms to have interpreted codes.
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The subject confirms having received messages in code, through cryptology. He thinks there has been very little of it and that he does not know a lot about it, but he knows enough to set up a digital algorithm.
-breivik puhuu tietokonesalakirjoituksesta... esim vaikkapa pgp:stä
http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGP
Observanden responded negatively to whether he had ever believed that he was featured in TV, newspapers, radio or over the Internet. The experts find it difficult to gain an overview of this, since the subject does not want to provide details on his use of electronic communication.
-psykiatreilla taitaa olla jo harhoja.
