http://www.document.no/2012/03/forensic ... reivik-vi/
Breivikin tapamiset 6-7. Breivik puhuu iskuihin valmistautumisesta, pomminrakennuksesta, kohteiden valinnasta ja itse iskusta.
Huomioita:
He answers: Battle morale is at 30% now. It was 100% before the operation. The subject has made the scale himself. He reports that 0% is indifference, 10% is unlivable, 20% is OK, 50% is the upper limit of fighting morale in the prison, and 60% are days when one is a bit demotivated in freedom. It is my personal measuring scale.
-jälleenkö syytetään neologismeista?
I’m looking at phase 3, the trial, as an important motivation for my future life.
-breivik jo tässä vaiheessa odottaa oikeudenkäyntiään.
The subject goes on to say: The police has the technology to wiretap your phone even if it is turned off. The battery must be removed. The police has a type of remote control, it is remote controlled from their side. There is no electric circuit in microchips, but some types can send rays anyway.
About surveillance, the subject says that he for the last three years – 2009, 2010, and 2011 – was afraid he was wiretapped. He says: There are many different lists for monitoring. I was looking for a way to verify whether I was on such a list. Thought I could already be on the watch list of a European intelligence agency. So I regarded it as a test when I was buying weapons, then it was unlikely that I was on watch lists anyway. But as long as it did not cost anything, I just as well took out the cell phone battery.
The subject says that he also took the battery out of his cell phone during a visit to Prague in 2010. I was good at hiding clues, he said. When asked, he explains that he took the battery out of the phone both to avoid being registered on the base stations, and to avoid wiretapping. In general, the last year I tried to leave the phone at home, he says. I also used technology to hide my IP address.
The subject says he has been thinking a lot about wiretapping the last couple of years. I took my precautions, he says, but did not see any certain indications before June 18, 2011. Then I put together a number of factors.
The incident happened while the subject lived on his farm in Østerdalen. That day I realized I was being watched, he says. First I saw a police patrol by the road, then I saw a car with an extra antenna, and I had the feeling it was a civilian police car. It was suspiciously parked, 17 kilometers from the farm.
Now the PST is on my farm installing cameras, the subject thought at that time. It was unlikely to be local police, since they had a civilian police car. They were parked next to a bus stop and there were two men in the front seats.
When I got home, the barn door was left wide open and the subject thought there still might be someone inside the house. He waited for 20 minutes, and says: I thought about fighting my way to the Glock and then keep fighting. But I thought it was too much opposition, and that it was better to surrender without a fight.
It appears that the subject on this day was sure that surveillance cameras had been installed on the farm. He went searching for cameras inside the house when he got home. He says: Checked for cameras on all potential places. They have stopped using microphones now, they use tiny cameras instead. I checked all the cracks and all the holes, natural places, but I found nothing. I thought it would be rational for them to install cameras, as they did with Al Qaeda. Plenty of evidence there.
-eli breivikkikin puuhasi näitä skitsojen perustouhuja, eli etsi kameroita tilaltaan... tosin breivikin kohdalla tämä ei ole mitenkään outoa... mikäli breivik olisi paljastunut ja poliisi olisi halunnut kerätä lisätodisteita, niin kamerat olisivat todennäköisesti ollut juuri tuo käytetty menetelmä, sillä breivikin kohdalla puhelinkuuntelusta ei olisi ollut apua. aikaisemmin mainitsemani neljä ruotsalaista terroristiahan jäivät juuri puhelinkuuntelun avulla kiinni. joku heistä oli ilmeisesti myös jollain tarkkailulistalla ja poliisi keräsi lisätodisteita heitä vastaan pitkän aikaa.
-breivik sanoo haudanneensa varusteensa metsään puolentoista metrin syvyyteen.
During the conversation it is revealed that the subject since 2009 has feared that his phone has been tapped by a European intelligence agency. Since 2010 he suspected that surveillance cameras had been installed at home. He has considered acquiring detector equipment to find the cameras, but settled on doing a careful search. He has believed to be monitored by civilian police. He has felt vulnerable to infection. The ideas are considered as paranoid delusions.
-psykiatreilla näyttää olevan vaikeuksia käsittää, että mm. kemikaaliostojensa vuoksi breivik hyvin saattaa olla tarkkailulistalla. breivikin on mainittu jollain tällaisella listalla olleenkin. breivik on tarkkaan lukenut miten muut terroristit ovat paljastuneet ja pyrkineet välttämään tällaisia tilanteita. aikaisemmin kertomani esimerkki noista neljästä ruotsalaisesta terrori-iskun tekijästä on klassinen esimerkki. heidän olisi kannattanut tutkia kämppänsä kameroiden varalta ja suhtautua puhelimeen 'kuin sitä salakuunneltaisiin', jos he olisivat halunneet välttää kiinnijäämisen. psykiatrien diagnoosi on täysin naurettava.
The subject explains: One of the motives was to reorganize the political scale. 120 million Europeans support the operation. 15% of Europeans support the operations directly, while 50% support the primary principles. In about 60 years, 40% will support the practical policy, and 70% of all men. I believe this will be the dominant political orientation.
If I had heard on P4 afterwards that there were several hundred dead, I could have driven to Grønland (police station) to surrender, the subject says. In order to get international press, there must be a large impact, he says, one must exceed a certain limit. I imagined that Utøya could be a bonus operation when needed, or alternatively the newspaper Aftenposten’s premises, or the NRK.
-joku täällä penäsi sen perään, että miksi breivik tappoi niin monta kuin tappoi... miksei enemmän/vähemmän... yllä hänen perustelunsa.
-breivik kertoo, että hänellä oli hieman ennen iskuaan niin paljon ongelmia, että oli lähellä luopua koko touhusta. pomminrakennusoperaatiohan vei paljon aikaa, vaivaa, rahaa ja oli vaarallista. lisäksi pommi oli vaivannäköön nähden kohtuu tehoton.
Mutta eikös yllä oleva juttu olekkin ihan looginen? Eikö tuossa sinulle riitä vain sinun itsesi tuki?